Kirk Cameron Will Go Biblical King James on Your Arse [Celebrity Kids Gone Creepy]

Christians! The only group it’s still acceptable to be completely irrationally prejudiced against! Woo! Let’s all hate on them!!

(yes that was poorly articulated sarcasm for emphasis)

Seriously, people have all kinds of extreme views and they don’t get nearly the hatred from supposedly open-minded people that Christians do. As a Christian I don’t necessarily agree with everything all Christians say nor should I. Nor should you. But supposedly tolerant people should be more tolerant of the views of Christians and their right to believe and to tell others what they believe.

Should you hate on all Christians? Of course not. My problem? The proselytizing. I’m not Christian or religious, but several in my family are. I love them, and they are good people, but I absolutely hate that they try to convert me at all times. I’m not doing the opposite and telling them that I find their religion misguided. You have the right to believe what you believe, and I have the right to not. Don’t try and tell me what I should be doing to save my soul. And I have a big problem on disseminating false Charles Darwin books on evolution to college students.

When you’re religion calls you to refute things like FACTS and has inborn prejudices against certain people, then passing those prejudices down to their children, then yeah, I guess I really don’t see a problem with calling them out. Fundamentalists and/or extremists for ANYTHING need a reality check.

Now when I think of Mike Seaver I picture him as that creepy cult leader from last seasons True Blood.

I always wondered what happened to my crush Mike Seaver (although I liked Alex P.Keaton a hell of a lot more . . .and this just confirms why), then I saw him on the Duggars’ show. It would have been easier watching him on Celebrity Rehab.

Pretty extreme of you to lump Kirk Cameron in with Westboro Baptist Church. That church and its members (most of whom are related) are not an accurate representation of evangelicals. The term evangelical generally means that you feel called by God to tell everyone you meet about Him, but although that may be annoying and offensive to some, it is nothing compared to spewing hate and having protests at soldiers’ funerals, schools, and churches (which is just what Westboro does). Google Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist and then Google Kirk Cameron. I think you will find that their messages, along with their communication of said message are vastly different.

Really? With the divorce rate in Hollywood and in the U.S. in general, you think his stance on not kissing another woman was a BAD thing? I’d take his stance any day over the blatant nudity and almost-sex found in so many other films. Do we really think that all the contact between Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie while filming ‘Mr. & Mrs. Smith’ had nothing to do with his divorcing Jennifer Aniston?

I also take offense with your blatant generalizations in this post. “evangelists are not the most tolerant people in the world.” Really? I know of several who have left the Republican party, embrace environmentalism, and even support Obama’s public stance on abortion. To lump all evangelists together, and especially to lump them with Westboro, is incredibly irresponsible of you. I agree with the several previous posters who called you out for being intolerant of Christians. Apparently it’s a fashionable thing to be.

Anastacia, the intolerant Mamapop poster who thinks that extramarital almost-sex is great! They must all be intolerant of other people and others’ religions. If one of them is, they certainly all are! Mamapop supports extramarital sex and extramarital affairs!

Yeah, that’s what you just did in this post.

@ Jett
[You said]
The ‘someone’ who said that was me, Jen. And yes, ZOMGSRSLY.

[Jen says]
I didn’t want to make this personal. Apparently you do. That’s fine with me Jett, lets rock!

[Jett]
I can’t believe you even typed most of this little screed with a straight face. Wait…_did_ you type it with a straight face?

[Jen]
You bettcha I did Jett! So where is your evidence to refute what I said? All I see here is empty rhetoric, which is basicly meaningless. I said Christians dominate this country prove me wrong. I said the oppressors (that would be Christianity btw) are not the oppressed, persons like myself, a Kemetian (which is the Pagan following of the traditions, culture, and Netjeru of Kemet~”ancient Egypt” in the vernacular), WE ARE. Prove me wrong or don’t and prove me right, it’s that simple.

[Jett]
Because there is a serious backlash against Christianity and its proponents in this country right now. I don’t blame you for not being aware of it; if you are not an active part of a given culture or religion, it is difficult to know –much less acknowledge– its nuances.

[Jen]
That’s a load of BS if I ever heard it. My father has a Masters in World Religions, I’ve studied all the major current and past religions with him. He and I Co-run a religious-political group called The Brotherhood of Pagans, we both with our friends in said group keep very abreast of the news, especially where it concerns religious matters. And no one has heard of any “backlash against Christianity” serious or otherwise. No one but you and the paranoid fringe like Glen Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush, etc. But no one else. Of course maybe you could, oh I don’t know, provide some proof, some evidence of this outlandish claim. Got a link to a story to back this up? Or just more rhetoric? You know what that’s worth right?

[Jett]
I strongly resent the fact that you sweep all Christians under the rug of ignorance and blind zealotry. My faith is something I have carefully considered and reasoned out in my own being; there was no Kool-Aid drinking involved. I’m an intelligent, well-rounded woman of thought; I walk the path I walk because it feels more right for me than any other thing I’ve encountered in my life.

[Jen]
I’m sorry but the idea of a woman choosing on purpose to be a part of a “religion” which teaches that women are basicly sub-human cattle, the property of men is about as far from “intelligent” I can think of. Are you just a masochist or what exactly? Your choice shows ether a serious lack of understanding what the Bible actually teaches or an outright contempt for our gender, and that I Resent with a capital “R”. Want to learn what the Bible TRULY says about any number of topics? Check here: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ or here: http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm or here even: http://www.evilbible.com/ get back with me when you have, right now I feel you don’t know your own religion as well as I do and I’m a little embarrassed for you to be honest.

[Jett]
I guess what I’m most curious about is who has hurt you in the name of Christ. Because, well, I find that typically no one is as impassioned on a subject as you are without it being a loaded issue for them. Can I just offer you a sincere apology on their behalf?

[Jen]
No one hurt me. My mother and little sister who were murdered by a Christian fundy for being “Devil-worshiping Witches” they on the other hand were hurt quite a bit. My faith as a Kemetian teaches responsibility, you are only responsibable for your own actions and those of your children untell they mature into adulthood. So therefore nether you nor anyone but the man who was responsibable can apologize for his actions. And when my father caught up with him he was far from apologetic, he was proud of his actions. He was “following word for word the direct Word of God’” he said, for as the Bible plainly states, “do not suffer a Witch to live.” Want the book, chapter, and verse?

[Jett]
I’m being dead serious.

[Jen]
And they are just dead, the people who disserve the apology that is. The people I love. No apology can ever bring them back or right that wrong. That from your “god” and his religion of “love”.

[Jett]
They were wrong to injure you the way they did. The God I love and who loves me does not approve, and even says that they will be judged according to their own standard(s) one day. And seriously, there are a ton of people out there that sport the Christian mantle who have been mishandled in exactly the same manner as you by some church, somewhere. I feel deeply for them, for you, for those like you.

[Jen]
Maybe you should check those links out I posted and see what your “god” actually says about all this stuff. My mom and sis’s killer was indeed following the Bible, the supposed “Word of God” to the letter, so how could biblegod do other than to reward his actions? While were on the subject I’m bisexual, do you know what your “god” would have you do to me (hint: I would be joining my mom and sister!). Like I said check those links, especially the 1st, it’s got separate sections on what the Bible says about woman, homosexuals, familys, all that, it’s very simple and straight forward.

[Jett]
In fact, I am one of that number. It has sowed into me a genuine concern and, in turn, awareness of how I attempt to communicate Christ to others.

[Jen]
“Christ” is from the Greek Christos which is from the Ancient Egyptian “Krst” which means, anointed one, savior, messiah. That title was held by the Egyptian Netjeru (“god”) Heru/Horus. Here’s a little more about Horus, and Jesus also it seems:

~Horus was born of the virgin Isis on December 25th in a
cave/manger.

~Horus’ birth was announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

~The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon. The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: “Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (Matt. 2:15)

~Horus was a child teacher in the temple and was baptized by “Anup the Baptizer” when he was thirty years old.

~Horus had twelve disciples and performed miracles such as feeding bread to the multitude and walking on water.

~Horus raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.

~Horus transfigured on a mount.

~Horus also had titles such as the “way, the truth, the light, the
Messiah, God’s anointed Son, the Son of Man, the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the Word, the Morning Star, Prince of Peace, the light of the world.”

~He was “the Fisher,” and was associated with the lamb, lion and fish ‘Ichthys’.

~Horus’s personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son”
of “Ptah,” the “Father.”

~Horus was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.

~The adoration of the Virgin and Child is connected with both the adoration of Isis and the infant Horus and the adoration of Mary and infant Jesus. In the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis, the original “Madonna and Child.”

~Concerning the writing of the Gnostics, C. W. King, a noted
English author, says: “To this period belongs a beautiful sard in my collection, representing Serapis,…whilst before him stands Isis, holding in one hand the sistrum, in the other a wheatsheaf, with the legend: ‘Immaculate is our lady Isis,’ the very term applied afterwards to that personage who succeeded to her form, her symbols, rites, and ceremonies” (Gnostics and Their Remains, p. 71).

~Osiris, Isis, and Horus are the principal trinity of the
Egyptian religions. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy
Spirit is the Christian trinity. Dr. Inman affirms the Egyptian
roots of the Christian trinity “The Christian trinity is of Egyptian
origin, and is as surely a Pagan doctrine as the belief in heaven
and hell, the existence of a “devil”, of archangels, angels, spirits
and saints, martyrs and virgins, intercessors in heaven, gods and
demigods, and other forms of faith which deface the greater part of modern religions” (Ancient Pagan and Modern Christian Symbolism, p.13).

~For thirty centuries the Egyptians had been familiar with the
conception of a triune God. There was hardly a city of any note
without its particular triads. Here it was Amum, Maut, and Khonso; there Osiris, Isis, and Horus. (Intellectual Development, Vol. I, p. 191).

~Views of the Trinity, in accordance with Egyptian tradition,
were established. Not only was the adoration of Isis under a new
name restored, but even her image standing on the crescent moon reappeared. The well-known effigy of that goddess, with the infant Horus in her arms, has descended to our days in the creations of the Madonna and Child. (Conflict, p. 48).

~There are two stories connected with Horus that is analogous to stories found in the Old Testament. The hiding of the infant Horus in a marsh by his mother undoubtedly parallels the story of the hiding of the infant Moses in a marsh by his mother. When Horus died, Isis implored Ra, the sun, to restore him to life. Ra stopped his ship in mid-heaven and sent down Thoth, the moon, to bring him back to life. The stopping of the sun and moon by Isis recalls the myth of the stopping of the sun and moon by Joshua.

Seems like your “Jesus Christ” is just a counterfeit of my Horus Krst, LMAO! You should really study and research something as important as to what you entrust your soul. Did you know your “religions” creation was politically motivated (by Paul), that it’s stories, demons, gods, etc are over 90% plagiarized from older Hebrew and Pagan traditions (mostly Egyptian and Sumerian)? Do you even know the name of your “god” (I do) or that there are in fact two, not one but TWO major Hebrew gods who are brothers and enemies, they both are called the generic title “God” in the modern English Christian Bible, but are entirely different beings? My parents were historians, archeologists and Egyptologists and did extensive research into the Christian god, here is an eye-opening piece from an essay my father wrote on the topic:

“There was originally a distinct difference between the figures of Jehovah and “the Lord”. They were, in fact, quite separate deities. The god referred to as Jehovah was traditionally a storm god – a god of wrath and vengeance – whereas the god referred to as “the Lord”, was a god of fertility and wisdom.

The name given to the Lord in the early writings was Adon – the
prevailing Semitic word for Lord. As for the apparent personal name of Jehovah, this was not used in the early days, and the Vulgate Bible explains that the God of Abraham was called El Shaddai, which relates to a Great One of the Mountain.

The identity of Jehovah (Yahweh) came from the an original Hebrew stem (YHVH) which, according to Exodus, meant ‘I am that I am’. This was said to be a statement made by God, to Moses, on Mount Sinai hundreds of years after the mythical time of Abraham. Jehovah was, therefore, not a name at all, and early texts refer simply to El Shaddai, with his opposing counterpart being the Adon. To the Canaanites, these gods were respectively called El Elyon and Baal.

In modern Bibles, the definitions God and Lord are used and
intermixed throughout, as if they were one and the same character – but originally they were not. One was a vengeful god (a people suppressor); the other was a social god (a people supporter), and they each had wives, sons and daughters.

The old writings tell us that, throughout the patriarchal era, the
Israelites endeavored to support Adon the Lord – but at every turn El Shaddai (the storm god Jehovah) retaliated with floods, tempests, famines and destruction. Even at the very last (around 600 BC), the Bible explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah’s bidding. Tens of thousands of Israelites were taken into Babylonian captivity simply because one of their previous kings had erected altars in veneration of Baal the Adon.

It was during the course of this captivity that the Israelites
finally succumbed to the Jehovah god of wrath. They developed a new religion out of sheer fear of his retribution – and this was only 500 years before the time of Jesus. Subsequently, the Christians took Jehovah on board as well, calling him simply God, while the hitherto social concepts of the Adon were totally discarded. The two Religions were henceforth both faiths of fear.

This leaves us knowing that, within an overall pantheon of gods and goddesses (many of whom are actually named in the Bible), there were two predominant and opposing deities. In different cultures the pair have been called: El Elyon and Baal, El Shaddai and Adon, Ahriman and Mazda, Jehovah and Lord, God and Father – but these styles are all titular; they are not personal names. So who precisely were they?

To find the answer we have to look no further than where these gods were operative, and old Canaanite texts (discovered in Syria in the 1920s) tell us that their courts were in the Tigris-Euphrates valley in Mesopotamia. We can trace the related Sumerian records back to about 3700 BC, and they relate that the gods in question were brothers. In Sumer, the storm-god (who eventually became known as Jehovah) was called Enlil or Ilu-kur-gal (meaning Ruler of the Mountain), and his brother (who became Adon the Lord) was called Enki, which means ‘archetype’.

The texts inform us that it was Enlil who brought the Flood; it was Enlil who destroyed Ur and Babylon, and it was Enlil who constantly opposed the education and enlightenment of humankind. Indeed, Syrian texts tell us that it was Enlil who obliterated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah on the Dead Sea – not because they were dens of wickedness, but because they were great centers of wisdom and learning.

It was the Lord Enki, on the other hand, who (despite the wrath of his brother) granted the Sumerians access to the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life. It was Enki who set up the escape strategy during the Flood, and it was Enki who passed over the time honored Tablets of Destiny – the tablets of scientific law which became the bedrock of the early mystery schools in Egypt.
(From “The Real Devil” by Reverend Setnakt Frost, Siaion of the Ancients)

Maybe you should figure some of this stuff out, you know, the FACTS before you represent yourself as “informed”. I MORE than know what I’m talking about!

[Jett]
My original objection stated above was not that there are no erroneous, ugly persons that call themselves Christians, but that I don’t feel it’s fair to sweep us all under the banner of blaming, insensitive, hateful bastards.

[Jen]
Depending on which Christian god your following (Enlil or Enki) you may be a good person, or an evil one, as most people emulate their god. Of course since your all just calling them both “god” most of you don’t even know yourselves which god your actually following. I figure some are following both which explains the delusion and outright insanity so common in Christians in general. The deity I follow btw is named Sekhmet, the Goddess of Divine Retribution and Vengeance ( http://www.crystalinks.com/sekhmet.html ), just so you know.

Also, in the future, besides not incorrectly assuming that us non-Christians couldn’t possibly know anything about Christianity, you might also want to compare alike things as I did instead of unlike things as you did. Notice I compared a religion “Christianity” with other religions (Paganism, Scientology). All religions are CHOICES, not things you are born and have no say in. You compared Christianity to a gender (women) and a race (black people), that’s apples to oranges and meaningless as the “anti-Christian backlash” rhetoric your trying to sell.

Christians, you try to claim you “invented” marriage, as if my ancestors in ancient Egypt weren’t getting married for millenniums before anyone ever heard of your religion or your god(s), then, based entirely on that fraudulent claim you demand discrimination against non-straight persons such as myself, and if we call you out on your lies, ignorance and bigotry we are somehow “intolerant” ~RIGHT! Give me a freaking break!

And for the record I don’t hate all Christians, I certainly do hate the foul philosophy, the “religion” of Christianity and it’s demonic “god” (you know, Enlil, the one of hate who gets the most air-time). I do know from experience to distrust all Christians unless I know them personialy VERY WELL. I also have very little tolerance for Christians who are historical revisionists, who are so ignorant to sell their soul to a thing who’s real name they don’t even know, who play the victim when nothing could be farther from the truth. And those who misquote me. Like you did when you claimed I “lumped all Christians with the extremists”, I did not!

My family has practiced the Kemetian way for 94 generations since my ancestors left Egypt about the time the Romans took over. We had to practice our faith in secret, pretending to be Christians just to survive. The women of my family have always passed down the knowledge, from mother to 1st born daughter, as we trace our bloodline through the female not the male. Generation after generation we had to keep our true beliefs a secret, even from the men in our lives. It wasn’t untell my father that a man was ever again taught the truth. Any why was that? So we wouldn’t be murdered by Christians, but you are the ones being oppressed?!?! Sounds like you did drink the Cool Aid IMO! So what say you to this? It’s all just the truth, can you handle it?