Twitter Drama AHOY: Bam Margera Blasts Roger Ebert For Twitter Comment On Ryan Dunn’s Death – Mayhem Ensues

Because what the world needed now was dramaz, sweet Twittah dramaz, right?

SIGH.

So! After reports of Ryan Dunn’s death yesterday turned toward examination of the Jackass star’s mini drinking binge in the hours before he got behind the wheel (at minimum 3 shots and 3 beers in four hours, gaaaaaah), film critic Roger Ebert decided it was appropriate to post the following on Twitter:

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Which…okay. I get it. And of course we all agree – friends don’t let friends (jackass or otherwise) drive drunk. Granted.

But DUDE. The guy had been dead HOURS. Not exactly, well, tasteful.

Then Bam Margera got wind of Ebert’s jab, and things went all to hell:

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GAH.

Of course then Perez Hilton, Attention Whore, had to get in on the clusterfuck, putting up a post - ”Roger Ebert Responds Insensitively To Ryan Dunn’s Death” – calling Ebert out.

Ebert read the post, and AGAIN took to Twitter:

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Which was interpreted by many as Ebert refusing to apologize, and, well, kind of being a jerk.

I know. This is just getting unnecessarily complicated now, right? Celebrities, how many times have we told you to THINK BEFORE YOU TWEET, HMM? WHY DO YOU NOT LISTEN?

ANYWAY, rightly sensing that shit had gotten more than a little out of control when his Facebook page was taken down last night after being flagged as “hateful” – presumably by Jackass fans – Ebert moved to post a full rebuttal/explanation just a few hours ago. Not on Twitter, oh noooo – he went straight to the Chicago Sun Times, motherfuckers! Ebert is GANGSTA.

In part, he wrote:

To begin with, I offer my sympathy to Ryan Dunn’s family and friends, and to those of Zachary Hartwell, who also died in the crash. I mean that sincerely. It is tragic to lose a loved one. I also regret that my tweet about the event was considered cruel. It was not intended as cruel. It was intended as true.

…In a touching interview with the NBC station, Bam Margera’s mother, April, said Dunn was a fast driver and that she told him to slow down “every day” following a bad accident he was involved in more than a decade ago. “He drove too fast and I yelled at him all the time about that,” she said. In another story, it was indicated that DUI was involved in the earlier crash.

I don’t know what happened in this case, and I was probably too quick to tweet. That was unseemly. I do know that nobody has any business driving on a public highway at 110 mph, as some estimated — or fast enough, anyway, to leave a highway and fly through 40 yards of trees before crashing. That is especially true if the driver has had three shots and three beers. Two people were killed. What if the car had crashed into another car?

Which was maybe kinda an apology but also maybe kinda a justification. So, umm, draw?

And that’s where things stand now, in the land of Twitter dramaz. And it’s all kind of… stupid.

I wasn’t a fan of Dunn’s in particular, though I enjoyed the Jackass TV show and films as they were meant to be enjoyed – with cringing and laughter and shock and awe at those boys and their antics. And it goes without saying that I have a ton of respect for Ebert and his tremendous body of work. But the bottomline is, a man is dead. A 34 year old man, a young man, gone before his time. And whether he died because of his own stupid mistake or not, he deserves a little respect. Because just like you and me and Roger Ebert, he had friends and family, and he was loved, and is now mourned. Let’s take a moment and remember his humanity, before we take to a public forum and shame him – or anyone else for that matter. Cool?

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  • http://www.agirlandaboy.com simon

    Eh.

    When you die in the process of recklessly endangering the lives of others, and in this case, taking someone out with you, I see no need for any respect. This guy built a career on doing stupid shit, not curing cancer or something.

    It’s fully appropriate to feel bad for those who loved him who will miss him, but I have no respect for the douchebag.

    • http://www.sweetney.com Sweetney

      I’m not saying he’s a hero – he was an entertainer. But regardless of his profession, I think all human beings deserve a modicum of respect – no matter how they die. I’d also say, I’m pretty sure most of us have gotten drunk (or high, or whatever) and done stupid shit we regretted later. I’d also wager that at one point in most of our lives, the majority of us have gotten behind the wheel of a car when we shouldn’t have.

      • NinaN

        Nope. I never have.

        And lets not forget that he also killed someone else in that car.

    • KimAZ

      With ya, Simon. Ebert’s timing may have been hair-trigger, but taking another life because of your own stupidity (and probably THAT person’s tacit permission by getting in the car with you) is unforgivable.
      Plenty of sorrow to go around, unfortunately. Poor families.

  • babs

    You know when your kids is doing something dangerous and while you walk toward him to stop the activity you say, “You should stop that before you get hurt.”, but he DOES get really injured before you get to him? Yeah. You don’t look at your bleeding child and say, “I told you to stop that.” You take your kid up and make sure he gets the care he needs and then, maybe while he’s eating some ice cream, you tell him how he was responsible for his injuries.

    My point is, the family is still grieving. Give it a minute before you get on your high horse, mkay?

  • http://lemmonex.com Lexa

    I think he probably should have used another term; jackass was a poor choice, even if that is how they self identify. Also, waiting a day or two would have been much better form.

    This was a horrible tragedy, one that could have been avoided. And this doesn’t mean my heart doesn’t break for his family and friends but I think it is an important thing to discuss.

    I have had multiple friends/twitter pals say things along the lines of “6 drinks in 4 hours…is that really drunk driving?”. Um, yes, yes it is. You are impaired. He plowed through 40 feet of trees, killed himself and his friend. And I truly believe a lot of people don’t want to hear the truth about this because many people have done the same thing. Confronting this and criticizing this means looking at yourself.

    • http://www.sweetney.com Sweetney

      Oh, agreed. He was stupid and reckless to get behind the wheel. There’s no question about that – at least not for me.

      I think the very knee-jerk, judge-y responses are interesting. Either the people doing the judging have never had a drink in their lives, or they’re refusing to look at themselves and, perhaps, their own past behavior, and/or the behavior of friends and loved ones. Who among us at MINIMUM can say that even if we haven’t driven drunk before, that we don’t love someone who we know has? And how would you feel if THIS was the end result of their (stupid, irresponsible) actions? Would you say then that this person you loved didn’t deserve anyone’s respect, was a douchebag, and fuck ‘em?

      • http://lemmonex.com Lexa

        I have just never seen people flirt with condoning drinking and driving the way I have seen it the past few days. An interesting phenomenon.

        And you are right; I would be heartbroken. My brother has been arrested for drinking and driving twice. I also think he is a completely irresponsible idiot, but would not react kindly to some of the things that are being said if he were to die acting like said idiot.

        Also, I am not perfect. BY FAR. So, also that.

        • http://www.sweetney.com Sweetney

          That’s insane – condoning it. It was a terrible, idiotic choice. And if nothing proves that, THIS should, you know? SIGH.

  • Jennifer

    I agree with Ebert. You drink & drive? You deserve to be mocked; you do not deserve even the SLIGHTEST modicum of respect from strangers. Your family & friends can cry over their loss, yes, but people who drive while sloshed, or buzzed, or whatever should not expect anyone besides those closest to them to feel pain because they made a stupid choice and killed themselves (and, in this jackass’ case, another person).

  • http://www.MotherhoodinNYC.com Marinka

    My heart breaks for his family. Because of the choices he made, not because of what Ebert tweeted.

  • http://www.minoandman-man.blogspot.com Dawn

    Was it in poor taste and too early? Yes. But true unfortunately. At the end of the day two people lost their lives due to poor decisions and an assumed aura of invincibility.

  • http://bloggedbliss.com Jenna

    I can easily see both sides of the coin here. Initially when reports came out about his death I was shocked. I’ve been watching Dunn since the CKY days. I was really sad about him dying, in that “I’ve never met the guy and have no legitimate reason to be upset” kinda way.

    Then I got the details that he was speeding in his Porsche after throwing back (quite) a few and also killed his friend? That just sucks. And is totally irresponsible. I agree that drunk driving is just STUPID.

    But Ebert was out of line for tweeting so quickly after the fact. Christ, Gilbert Godfrey was making jokes about Japan like, 10 minutes after the tsumani hit and was fired from his job at Geico in less than 15 minutes. (See what I did there?)

    Now, I certainly don’t equate Ryan Dunn’s death to that of the tragedy of the tsunami, but you get what I’m saying. Tact is awesome. Use it, Ebert.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jurgen_nation Jurgen Nation

    What surprises me most is that it was EBERT who tweeted something like that. Does that make sense? People mis-tweet all the time and either come off as insensitive or just downright ARE insensitive, but I never imagined Roger Ebert would be caught up in dramaz like this.

    As for whether it was appropriate or not, dude. A guy is dead. It doesn’t matter to me if he died by natural causes or if he was driving intoxicated, the people left behind are the ones mourning and in pain and have to deal with the loss. If you want to hate the guy because he drove drunk, hate away, but he can’t hear you. The people who loved him shouldn’t have to pay the price for a dumb decision on his part.

    My opinion: dick move, Ebert.

    • DianaCLT

      Exactly what I’ve been thinking/feeling about this.

  • Suzy Q

    I had no idea until this post that he had also killed someone else as well as himself. Damn.

  • http://www.veepveep.com veep veep

    Ebert was harsh but he said something publicly that many of us were thinking privately.

    But if he had a horrible accident before because of a DUI and didn’t change his ways then I have no respect for him (as you suggested Ebert should have had) now Dunn is gone.

    His actions not only hurt his family and friends but his passenger’s family as well.

    I have never driven drunk. I have never gotten behind the wheel of a car after drinking even a glass of wine. And I have never gotten in a car driven by someone who was drunk. Now I am definitely in the minority there but that doesn’t change the fact he should not have made the choice to be reckless.

    And what’s with him being visibly drunk to patrons and the bouncer/bartenders/other friends didn’t step in to save his (and his passenger’s) life! Not one of those people thought to step in!?

    • http://www.sweetney.com Sweetney

      Having empathy for, and respecting, someone’s humanity, isn’t condoning his behavior.

      He did a horrible, stupid thing. But lots of people – people you love, I’m sure – have done that same horrible stupid thing. Probably more than you know. I’m able to separate a human life, a person, from a stupid, costly mistake. People make mistakes that have terrible consequences, but it doesn’t diminish their humanity, suddenly make it okay to say they are worthless. It makes me genuinely sad that so many people don’t feel that way. I wonder seriously if those people would feel that way if it was their Mom, brother, sister, best friend, who did exactly what he did. And they probably have – at least one of those people you love surely has, in the past, at some point. Does that mean your Mom, sister, best friend, who did that same thing Ryan Dunn did no longer deserve to be given due respect and empathy as another human being, as another human life? Do they deserve to be called a douchebag for making that mistake? Or do they only still deserve my respect because they got away with it, didn’t die a horrible death, like this person did?

      • http://www.veepveep.com veep veep

        Never said he was worthless. Never called him a douchebag. I just think the backlash to Ebert’s comment was ridiculous considering the greater take away from the situation should be please stop reckless behavior. And I find it hard to respect someone who doesn’t have respect for himself (with his decisions)

  • http://www.glamamom.com Glamamom

    People will use any means to make themselves feel superior over others. Look at the finger pointing in these comments alone. The guy made a mistake. Maybe he made the same mistake again and again. He was a human being. His family, friends, and fans are in mourning. I think we can save the PSAs till he’s in the ground.

  • http://missbanshee.com missbanshee

    Ebert is a self-confessed recovering alcoholic. While I would have waited to respond in a public arena, people in recovery (myself included) know that we are the lucky ones – we never killed anyone. I understand why he said what he said, even though it was obviously a knee-jerk reaction.

  • AmyC65

    What if someone dies while going on a shooting rampage at a Wendy’s? Or they die robbing a bank with a sawed-off shotgun? Do we give them respect and their families time to mourn?

    Is it because he was a “celebrity”? (Never heard of him.) Is that why we’re encouraged to show some respect? Because he did something stupid, illegal, reckless and very, very dangerous. I don’t see the reason to give him his “respect”. We will respect ourselves right out of the opportunity to say to his fans, “Hey, this guy did something awful and look what it got him. DO NOT do what he did.”

  • rebecca

    I understand giving the family time to mourn. Ebert should have waited until the funeral was over, at least. But I feel like the only good thing that can come out of this is education…I am fairly certain Jackass is still kind of relevant in the teen/youth world, and this a clear example of the destruction that can happen with drunk driving. In reality, this is just completely, ridiculously sad in that it was 100% preventable…and that is a lesson that needs to get across.

  • http://www.mamakaren.com MamaKaren

    I may not have any respect for Dunn himself for the irrational, dangerous things he did to lead to his (and another person’s) death, but I think Ebert’s tweet was out of line because of the freshness of the loss. If someone could have stopped Dunn from driving drunk, he or she is probably feeling very guilty right now for not doing anything. If his friends or family tried to get him to stop his destructive habits, it’s unfair to blame them for not being successful. What good does the finger pointing serve right now?