Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A System


Last year, all of the parenting world was in a huff over Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua’s controversial book where she put forth the notion that Chinese methods of parenting were far superior to Western methods, particularly in the realm of the talents and achievements of kids.  This year we’re all getting the opportunity to be in a huff about Bringing Up Bebe (also known in the UK as French Children Don’t Throw Food), Pamela Druckerman’s book about the superiority of French parenting methods.

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Where Chua’s stance was kind of a mother-as-unflinching-drill-instructor, Druckerman heads to the other end of the spectrum and argues that the main priority of French parenting is basically the need for “me time“.  French children are taught the importance of patience, of not getting anything they want immediately, even if it’s the attention of their parents.  French children are taught to play on their own, eat only at scheduled times, and to respect the personal boundaries of their parents.  French parents stress the importance of the word “No” and can’t imagine rushing to cater to the needs of a demanding little Napoleon.  Which is weird, since I would have assumed French parenting would involve a lot of surrendering.

1772176 o Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A SystemBut SERIOUSLY folks!  I love the French.  Good sports.  Great people.

Now, I’m new to the parenting game.  My son, Max, is exactly 12 weeks old today, so he hasn’t had the chance to throw a tantrum, disobey, or JUST RIP THE HEARTS OUT OF  HIS PARENTS’ CHESTS!  Here he is now:

DSC 0987 600x400 Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A SystemHe was checking up on me after I found myself sleeping on the floor at 3 in the morning.

So, I can’t really speak from the point of view of an exasperated parent—only a very sleepy parent.  But as someone who is preparing himself for the trials of parenting that are yet to come, I have to ask, are parenting books like these really helping anyone?  After pondering this very question myself, I’ve come to this highly scientific and absolutely infallible answer: yes and no.  First let’s look at how I came to “yes.”

yes Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A System“Yes” the answer, not Yes the band.  Hair like that couldn’t parent anyone.

I think books like these are helpful ONLY when taken as piecemeal and not as an entire system.  If one nationality had completely mastered the art of parenting, I think it would have been discovered and agreed upon a long time ago.  We need to believe that there’s one perfect system out there that works, even if that’s pretty much impossible.  There is no “perfect” method of parenting, but that’s not to say we can’t keep our minds open and learn new tricks from all across the board.  Books like these can offer helpful tips for working on the problem parts of your kid’s life.  There’s a lot to be said for things like set dinner times, as put forward in Druckerman’s book.  And while I would have probably thrown myself into an idling woodchipper a long time ago if Amy Chua were my Mom, I think there’s a lot to be said for pushing your kids to succeed—even if you don’t agree with her specific methods.

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But here’s where I start to meander towards “no.”  First, parenting in different countries is just that: different.  The circumstances of families in France are very different from those of families in the United States.  In France and other European countries, families are afforded more time off to be together and education is provided for kids as early as preschool, which certainly takes certain stresses off French families.  But as we all know, in the US, having federally provided health care, education, and assistance would only send us into a Socialist hellscape that would cause Hitler to rise from the grave and we’d all have to report to a reeducation camp where we’d all be forcibly gay-married.

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Also, systems like these don’t take into account one important thing: children are still individuals.  There are still bratty French kids and kids that don’t have any desire to become masters at the piano.  Kids are people with their own thoughts, feelings, emotions, and dreams that will not fit into the parameters that any parenting book is trying to point you to.  Kids can’t be sculpted.  They can be guided and nudged, but there’s so much that goes into the parenting of a unique individual that one parent’s perfect method could prove to be an absolute disaster for another.  Also, these books have another purpose.  They want you to BUY THEM.  They want to appeal to people who are near the ends of their ropes as a potential solution to all of their woes, and while it’s fine to look to them for guidance, just remember that any style of parenting can highlight only their good points in order to convince you that they’re right.  For example, here’s some other parenting books I’ve found:

Title: Inuit?  More like Inu-US!

Blurb on the back of the book:  The secret for raising a perfect child/hunter can be found right under the Northern Lights.    Join Aga and Adlartok in the journey to raise, Tookeet.

Key Points: Family togetherness is heightened when every day is a struggle for survival.  Kids learn to save and share when every part of the seal is harvested.  ”Eskimo Kisses” prevent teen pregnancy 97% of the time.

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Title:  Hergen Dergen!

Blurb on the back of the book:  Heeble sheerble kiddies!  Hergen merken cookin dubin!  Kiddie rasin fluerkie!

Key Points:  Cooking together as a family unit toughens children who are tasked with attacking chickens with a meat cleaver.  Kids have to build their own furniture with an Allen wrench.

Klingon copy Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A System

Title: My Favorite Klingon

Blurb on the back of the book:  When one finds oneself in charge of idiot humans, the Klingon method of parenting offers advantages that are both great and numerous. BAK TCHAAA!!!

Key Points:  Combat as form of conflict resolution.  Emphasis on learning a new language.  Not all that different from Tiger Moms.

Bear copy Just Tell Me Who to Copy! French Parenting, Tiger Moms, And Our Need For A System

Title:  Bear Parent

Blurb on the back of the book:  Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.  ROARRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Key Points:  Children are taught to catch their own food in their teeth.  Children have to accept potentially being eaten during the winter.  May have been written by a lunatic as opposed to an actual bear.

I think it’s important to remember when either accepting or criticizing a book about parenting that none of them should be taken as a comprehensive system.  We should either glean from them what we can or realize it’s not for us and our little screaming offspring.  There is no one perfect system, so we should stop trying to find it and work more on developing our own.

Though Bear Parent makes a lot of valid and terrifying points.

So what do you think, Moms and Dads?  Do parenting books like these help you in your day-to-day lives?  Or are they better used for mopping up whatever it was that Billy spilled on the living room rug?  Ever had any success with books like these?  Failures?  Now if you excuse me, I’m going to start highlighting passages from Hergen Dergen

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About Joe Lyons

Joe Lyons, aka SweetMonkeyCreek, likes to write funny things from his compound in Pittsburgh, PA. When he's not writing stories, plays, or founding secret societies, Joe works tirelessly on his weather machine, which he promises is not for world domination...even though there is an alarming amount of evidence indicating that it is.



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  • Anonymous

    HOLDING…and release.

    I think parenting books are mostly useless for all the reasons you mention above. They mostly serve to take advantage of all parents’ deep, shaky feelings of OMG I’M DOING THIS WRONG I MUST BE DOING THIS WRONG. Sometimes perfectly lovely kids will act like demons over a box of Froot Loops that you will not buy for them, and THAT’S THAT. They’ll be fine. You’ll be fine. Just do the opposite of Courtney Love, and your kid will be OK. (Hell, even Courtney’s kid ended up OK.)

    Off to buy a copy of Hergen Durgen…

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      “Just do the Opposite of Courtney Love and Your Kid Will Be Ok”.

      You’ve just demolished my entire article.  You’ve invented the perfect parenting system.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure that I’ve been raising my toddler in the proper French way.  She knows how to point at my glass and say “Wine.”  Parenting WIN!

    (Also, I haven’t laughed at work this hard since the final Friday Cry-laff post.  Thank you Hergen Dergen!)

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      Haha!  I’d say you’re doing fine…that is unless your kid starts to identify the vintage and flavor notes of the wine you’re drinking.  Then you should probably call her sponsor.

      I seriously need to call my lawyer and find out how much I’m going to owe the Henson estate if I decide to write Hergen Dergen…

  • Moldoon

    People at work are looking at me with concern as I try to stifle prolonged laughter at Hergen Dergen. That was some funny stuff.

  • http://twitter.com/PhilaBillBrasky Bill Brasky

    I read the WSJ article on the French parenting book and thought it interesting and relevant.  Then I watched the accompanying video of an interview with the author and it completely undermined the message she was selling.  She is super-unlikeable.
     
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
     
    Also, despite the vibrant culture, beautiful cities & countryside, and super-parenting… anything French should be ridiculed.  It’s the American way.  Freedom Fries Baby!

  • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

    WHEW!  Good thing that’s not the joke I was trying to make.  The joke is that anyone can paint any culture with a broad brush and make it seem like they have the recipe for parenting success.  I have several bumper stickers proving how against poverty and oppression I am.

    • Brooke L.

      I get your joke, it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth because you made it with images of insulting racial stereotypes.  I absolutely believe you didn’t set out to offend anyone, but publishing images of Inuit as primitive igloo-dwellers who eat blubber can be hurtful, even if you use them ironically or to make fun of people who would seriously do that.  The overwhelming majority of images of Inuit and Yupik people in the media are primitive parka caricatures, and it’s 2012, let’s move on.  Seriously, this is Little Black Sambo type stuff.  Do your bumper stickers proud and stop to think about what a slap in the face it is to an Inuit person to see this.  If you absolutely need a representative of the North to make fun of, that’s why god gave us Sarah Palin.  

      • http://twitter.com/PhilaBillBrasky Bill Brasky

        I too, as a proud Bear-parent of a young cub, am offended by your caricature of a bear.  

        Just kidding,  I actually  not a bear.  Brooke L. I think you may be “Grunfelding” it here: http://www.moxiebird.com/2012/02/student-who-accused-jewish-professor-of-anti-semitism-now-accusing-everybody-of-anti-semitism.html

      • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

        Brooke, do yourself a favor and do a Google image search for “Inuit Family”.  The image I used above is the fifth one that comes up.   “Inuit Family”.  Not “Eskimo Stereotype” not “Hurtful Images of Northern Peoples”.  Just “Inuit Family”.

        You can either “get the joke”, which you say you do, and realize that I’m making fun of people who would buy into these generalizations, or you can stay in a huff, be outraged for outrage’s sake, and be just as disheartened about the depiction of bears, Klingons (TREKKERS ARE PEOPLE TOO!) and our Muppet Sweedish neighbors.

        Parody is one of the strongest tools we have to actually make people think about stuff like this.

      • Anonymous

         And none of the other fake book covers were offensive? OH WAIT IT WAS SATIRE.

  • http://www.sweetney.com Sweetney

    Hergen Dergen, all the way.

  • http://twitter.com/ecustomcards Erin Human

    Probably the main value of these books is to get more than a sound bite about whatever point of view the author is pushing. As a parent, I find the Cliffs Notes of these things to be almost completely unavoidable, so they become this little insidious chorus in your head that seems to get louder and louder…

    If you read the whole book you can probably approach it more thoughtfully and choose the parts you like and don’t like (I agree with you that there are some good points in most of these books) instead of just digesting them against your will. That said, I rarely read parenting books.

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      Excellent point.  As soon as the bullet point mantra of these systems enters the public consciousness, it’s hard to get them out of your head.

  • Danielle Verney

    Loving your articles Joe!  And the cute Max pics!

    I will say, parenting books have proven more useful to me when either 1) the book is limited to a specific scenario (say, “how to make your baby sleep in a bed, any bed, as opposed to face down on your chest while you’re sitting straight up”, which will also probably be a chapter title in my autobiography) 0r 2) the book goes along with my general parenting philosophy anyway (“Helping Hippie Parents Learn to Discipline” vs. “Turn Yourself Into The Generalissimo So Your Child Learns the Meaning of No”).  

    Reading very broad books that conflict with your own ideas on how to raise your child is probably just going to make you mad.  (HIPPIE HULK MOM SMASH TIGER LADY!)

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      Hahaha!  Tiger Lady wouldn’t stand a chance in the face of an angry HIPPIE HULK MOM!!!

      That’s a great point about these books being useful when faced with specific problem scenarios.  I’m not looking forward to the day when Max will finally be able to burst out of his swaddler with the strength of a thousand tiny Irishmen…

  • Carrie Piatkowski

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. “Bear Parent.” That’s some good stuff right there.

  • Bernadette Ulsamer

    Bear Parent!!!! Roar!

  • Hannah

    After reading the WSJ article, I attempted to use the system on my 23 month old.  AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Um.

    I mean, I guess we could all learn not to be so permissive (FROOT LOOPS KILL!!!11!!1!) but, really, is a graham cracker before dinner going to kill your kid?  Just like yesterday’s snack of half a cup of dog food (eaten straight out of the bowl with no hands, natch) didn’t prevent her eating her very wholesome dinner made out of wholesomeness.  And pudding.

    You will sleep again.  I promise.  Someday.

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      {sniff}  Thank you.  I look forward to that day…

  • http://swanfeet.wordpress.com/ ladyphlogiston

    EXACTLY.  Every kid is different, and you have to adapt accordingly.  My mom used completely different parenting methods on each of us – S and I responded well to logic, C responded to fairy tales with morals, N did better when they discussed how her actions made people feel, etc.  The punishments changed too – I’m a very invtroverted abstract thinker, which meant that I didn’t care about money or most toys and I loved being alone.  So she had to get creative.

    Now that I’m a parent, I skim parenting books and articles sometimes, but not often.  I talk to my mom and to other moms a good bit, and I’ll look up specific topics online, but it’s mostly me and instincts and figuring out what works for my little girl.

    I also quite like reading the posts on the Freakonomics blog that are tagged parenting.  The take-home method over there tends to be that the research shows that my daughter will be fine pretty much no matter what I do, and that kindness and fun are the things that will really last, so I should just relax and enjoy things.  That’s a parenting system I can get onboard with.

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      Amen to that.

  • http://www.twitter.com/bstephenson Brad Stephenson

    I am a Swedish Chef, and I am horribly offended by your portrayal of Swedish Chefs. Norgen Coolgen.

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      Allow me to apologize in your native tongue…ahem…

      Hergie shergie flerbie!  Borie morken hork dork.

      I’m glad this is behind us now.

      • http://www.twitter.com/bstephenson Brad Stephenson

        Orhgen. Mygen. Godbren. I cannot believe you just said that to me.

        Hergie shergie flerbie? Not today, sir. Not today.

  • Anonymous

    So I have this distinct memory from my childhood. My little sister had just gotten yelled at for doing some dumb thing that I’m sure was not exceptional in any particular way. My mother yelled at her. I was sitting in the other room, but it was a small house with walls made of paper.. I guess “yell” is a harsh word, she did that Big Booming Teacher Voice that she would have likely used in a classroom of 30 when they’re all coming in from recess.

    Anyway. I’ve never – before than and in the many, many years since- NEVER heard my mother use that tone of voice on me. Later that day- or maybe the next day ? – I got the guts to ask my mom about it. I discovered her offense was something I’ve done too, but when I did it I just got a quiet “Don’t do that.”

    Her answer was great, “Because I can’t use the same methods on you that I use on your sister. You are different people and require different ways of handling.”

    Imagine! So many parenting books boiled down to one simple observation! I’m just really thankful my mom made that observation early on, because I think both myself and my little sister turned out great.

    • http://www.fictionaut.com/users/joe-lyons SweetMonkeyCreek

      That’s a really sweet/awesome story about your mom.  You’re right, every kid is different and if you think they’re all going to fit into some books pre-defined system then you’re just asking for trouble.

  • Valentina

    I am a big fan of checking parenting books out of the library when I’m having a bad mommy day. I am a wallower by nature, so when I am feeling bad about myself as a parent, there is nothing better than finding a book that promises to answer all of my questions and then reading all about just how wrong I am doing it! Usually by about the third chapter my self-loathing turns to irritation and author-loathing. At no point do I learn or improve my mediocre parenting, but it is therapeutic!